Conan OBrienonce considered his exLisa Kudrows high praise for herFriendscostarMatthew Perryto be no laughing matter.

Like, I was, Okay.

I make you laugh pretty hard.

Conan O’Brien, Matthew Perry and Lisa Kudrow

Conan O’Brien, Matthew Perry, and Lisa Kudrow.Getty(3)

And you were like, ‘No, you don’t understand.

This guy’s really [funny].

“Well, now it’s hard to hear, you see,” she teased.

“But it is true.

That’s just a fact.

But [Perry] was such a huge [star].”

Iused to not be able to watch it at all, Kudrow said.

I can’t bear it.

And then well, listen.

After Matthew died, I could start watching the show again because it wasn’t about me.

It had to do with him for some reason.

“Everyone is phenomenally hilarious to me.”

Watch O’Brien and Kudrow remember Perry in the clip above.