Lauper refused to turn her contemporary into a rival.

“As if you could only have one woman who is successful.

What the hell is that about?”

Cyndi Lauper and Madonna

Two artists who ruled the ’80s: Cyndi Lauper and Madonna.Kate Green/Getty; Ilya S. Savenok/Getty

“That woman’s been entertaining us for years.

She’s made great pop songs.

I want to be competitive, but not pitted against another woman.

I’m not into that.”

She pointed out that there had already been a Babs.

“You couldn’t have both of them?”

“You guys made a mistake.”

“I’m going to say this now on national and international television: You’re right!”

“It might have been easier for a while, but I wanted to learn.

And, honestly, I just always wanted to be a great artist.”