After the firstJoker, Joaquin and I were really sad.

Not only because we like working together, but because we didnt want to leave Arthur.

We loved Arthur and became attached to that character.

(L to r) LADY GAGA as Lee Quinzel and JOAQUIN PHOENIX as Joker in Warner Bros. Pictures’ “JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX,”

Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn and Joaquin Phoenix as Joker in ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’.Niko Tavernise/Warner Bros.

Simply put, it was to spend more time with Arthur."

But, theres a light, a beauty, and a romance inside of him, Phillips continues.

However, theres a romance inside of him, and theres music inside of him.

JOAQUIN PHOENIX as Arthur Fleck in Warner Bros. Pictures’ “JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX,”

Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck in ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’.Niko Tavernise/Warner Bros.

And, no, Phillips doesnt just mean that metaphorically.

Maybe the music that he hears inside his head starts coming out.

Why wouldnt that music come out when he meets somebody who gives him the time of day?

(L to r) LADY GAGA, JOAQUIN PHOENIX and director TODD PHILLIPS on the set of Warner Bros. Pictures’ “JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX,”

Todd Phillips directs Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix in ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’.Niko Tavernise/Warner Bros.

Theres a method to that madness, both for Arthur and for Phillips.

I dont know if I believe its the first time Frank Sinatra found somebody who needs him.

But, when Arthur sings it, it is.

Its a different meaning and in some ways, its more emotional.

The truth is, they gave each other pointers.

Hed give her pointers about acting; shes been in movies, but hesJoaquin Phoenix.

She gave him tips about music because shesLady Gaga.

Theres less room for interpretation, he finishes.

Is it a full-on musical or not?

But, that’s just life and love for someone like Arthur.

I got a little heat for saying its not really a musical.

I wasnt saying that because Im afraid of the term, musical.

I love musicals, and the movie definitely has music in it.

It might even be a musical, Phillips says.

On this movie, Im not sure its the same thing.