Sandra Bernhardis reflecting on a particularly colorful ray of light in her career as a comedian.

“Were going to get there.

“Im glad thats how it was perceived,” Bernhard, who is bisexual, told Gold.

Still from The View

Madonna and Sandra Bernhard on ‘Late Night With David Letterman’ ; Bernhard on ‘The View’.ABC

“But, for me, I always wanted to break the norms and really shake people up.

I couldnt imagine being any other way.

Doing straight comedy was just too boring.

Bernhard and Madonna remained friends throughout the ’80s, though they reportedly drifted apart in subsequent years.

“I dont know how she is now,” Bernhard said.

“She might be exactly the same.

But nobodys the same because we have children.

But at that time, it was the right time for our friendship.”

“I mean, its sort of hard to talk about it 30 years later.

And she was a much different person.

I mean, I dont know how she is now,” Bernhard toldThe Hollywood Reporterin 2021.

“She might be exactly the same.

But nobodys the same because we have children.

But at that time, it was the right time for our friendship.”

Outstandingis now streaming on Netflix.