Warning: This article contains spoilers forThe Challenge: All Stars 4episode 6.

The decision had been made: Nicole was ready to compete against Veronica, and Jasmine was safe.

Nicole announced she changed her mind, and would be competing against Jasmine instead.

Jasmine Reynaud from The Challenge: All Stars, season 4, streaming on Paramount+, 2024

Jasmine Reynaud.Andy Reeves/Paramount+

Nicole ultimately won the physical elimination, sending Jasmine home.

“I was thinking, ‘Man, I’m actually doing this.

We’re at the halfway point.

L-R: Avery Tressler Adam Larson, Ace Amerson, Nicole Zanatta, Jasmine Reynaud and Derek Chavez in The Challenge: All Stars, episode 6, season 4 streaming on Paramount+, 2024. Photo credit:

Avery Tressler Adam Larson, Ace Amerson, Nicole Zanatta, Jasmine Reynaud, and Derek Chavez.Jonne Roriz/Paramount+

I’ve just got to get through this,'” Jasmine tellsEntertainment Weekly.

“And it slipped out of my hands.

But I can’t blame anyone it just wasn’t my time.

Jasmine Reynaud in The Challenge: All Stars, episode 2, season 4 streaming on Paramount+, 2024. Photo credit:

Jasmine Reynaud.Jonne Roriz/Paramount+

I know this and I own it.

It just didn’t work out for me.

But I think it also made people realize that you’re free to’t sleep on me.

I may be 4'11” and 115 pounds, but you’ve got to put respect on my name.

Avoiding eliminations by playing a flawless social or political game is not easy to do.

It’s way harder to do.

You have to hope that no one sees, “Wait.

No one’s ever said her name.

She’s been in the bottom how many times?”

Either I go big or I go home.

Unfortunately I went home, but it is what it is.

What was that moment like for you?

It was taking way too long so I’m like, “What’s going on?

This is not happening.

I worked too hard to get to this spot.”

I will be untouchable.

But I can’t get mad at Veronica for playing her game.

I should have had Laurel talk to her or something.

Let’s just add another one to my belt.

Did you make a run at fight Nicole’s change of mind?

I would have tried to argue that the decision was already made, just to save myself.

Me exploding, going off, cussing everybody out was only going to screw my game up even more.

I wasn’t going to be able to play and focus and concentrate.

It sucked, but I’ll get my redemption.

Jasmine of 10 years ago would be exploding and cussing everyone out.

It’s wild to see how different the Jasmine ofAll Starsis …

I mean, Jasmine now will still cuss you out, but it’s in a more grown-up way.

That was just not a situation that I was going to win.

If Nicole was allowed to change her vote, there was nothing that I could have said or done.

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Could you hear what Veronica was saying to Nicole?

I couldn’t hear anything that she was saying.

To see it now, I’m like, “That damn little snake.”

But I can’t even be mad at Veronica.

That’s why she is an All Star.

Even she said, “Damn, I still got it.

Nicole really believed me.”

Nicole, you are that gullible.

What did you think she was saying to Nicole in that moment?

I just was just thinking, “Is she making a deal with her?”

She shook my hand and she promised Flora, too.

So I didn’t think anything of it, really.

I’m thinking we’re just waiting on production.

All you might do is laugh at that point.

Was there anything else that happened in that moment that wasn’t shown in the episode?

That’s pretty much how it went down.

Well, I did tell Nicole before we started, “You’ve made a very big mistake.

You will not win thisChallenge.

I doubt you’ll even go to a final.”

If looks could kill … Flora wanted to literally shoot lasers down at her.

Because it’s like, “You lied to me and you lied to Mama Flora.

Good luck going back in that house now.”

What was it like competing in that elimination against Nicole?

Thank God I have good insurance."

But I’ve done crazier things, so let’s see what can happen.

My rope got halfway over.

I have a chance.

And then she just dumped the whole thing on me.

I’m like, “All right, we’re done.”

You know what the funny thing is?

The game makers afterwards told us we completely played that game differently than they thought we would.

They didn’t think we were all going to wrestle.

They thought we were going to all pull the rope.

That might’ve worked to my advantage if I would’ve thought about that.

But we all played the game completely differently than how they built it.

I wish I was 168 pounds again it would’ve been a different story.

But I think I held my own against Nicole, and that’s not an easy thing to say.

What was your relationship with Cara like going into this season, and when did things change for you?

I met Cara on my very first challenge,Rivals 1.

I had no problem with her.

We never talked outside of shows.

We’ve never had each other’s numbers.

We don’t even follow each other on social media.

The last time I saw her was what,Free Agents?

I’m not even sure how long ago.

She didn’t even realize I had gotten married and got divorced and had kids and that’s fine.

There’s nothing wrong with that.

We had no problems with each other in the house.

When I made the call to vote her in,it was never personal.

You are someone that I have to go against.

There can only be one winner.

Just because you say that you saved me in the first vote, you didn’t save me.

Nobody was going to vote for me anyway.

You chose to do that, so don’t put that on me.

So I don’t know what to tell Cara.

I’m not understanding her logic behind that one.

If she wants to have a conversation with me about it, that’s fine.

If she doesn’t, that’s fine too.

It doesn’t matter to me.

I wish her no ill will.

So you two haven’t talked this over since filming ended?

No like I said, we don’t have each other’s numbers.

I have no way of getting in contact with her.

If Rachel would’ve came back, I would’ve had three people coming after me.

I knew Cara was going to come after me.

I took a shot, she took a shot, and her aim was better than mine.

That’s what makes her not just a physical threat, it also makes her a social political threat.

I respect what she did.

And I think it sets a precedent hopefully in futureAll Stars, that people will play the game again.

We’re not 20 years old anymore.

We’re in our 30s, 40s, some people pushing 50.

Let’s show these new kids how it’s really supposed to be done.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.