“But people wanted more.”

Films set intheConjuringuniversehave tended to trade in supernatural suspense rather than gore and violence.

“People wanted more violence,” Chaves says, with a laugh.

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Taissa Farmiga in ‘The Nun II’.Warner Bros. Pictures

“There was already agooddegree of violence and gore in the movie, but people wanted more of it.

So, we did a little bit of additional photography and we ramped that up.

It just goes to show how audiences are always changing, evolving.

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‘The Nun II’.Warner Bros. Pictures

Even in the earliest version, it was more [violent] than what was in your traditionalConjuringmovie.

It’s something they wanted more of and we gladly gave it.”

It’s these parallel stories as they build and collide together."

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‘The Nun II’.Warner Bros. Pictures

“I was at first a little hesitant to join in on anotherConjuringmovie.

“We were all wrestling with how to do this,” he continues.

I’m so proud of Taissa and Jonas for how they delivered that scene.

I think it blows anything that they did before out of the water.”

Chaves has now essentially spent half a decade making films in theConjuringuniverse.

Do the franchise’s characters ever turn up in his nightmares?

“MyConjuringnightmares usually center around the logistics of work and schedule,” he says.

So, you’re standing in front of 100 Demon Nuns desperately racing to rewrite a scene?

“That’s definitely one of them!”

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